Swordsmans of Alahan

from my experience i saw this warband with 3x lions of war + 1x sparkling + 4-5x swordsmen + 1x archer.

I saw 3 lions in p122something band but i don't remember the rest - game was interrupted before first turn.

But in my opinion gargoyles should do terrible things to such composition with 20dmg Vs cats.

Honestly swordman of alhan is one of the best unit of the game in their role. Doesn't understand this is pretty unbeliavable imo.

Is better than skeleton warrior and than fang.

better with/for what?

In the lion army the role of swordsman is tanking, being carrier of seal of dae*.* and with parry hold position while mage and archer do their nuke job. Every decent lion list have at least 2-3 swordsman because they're simply too good.

Every decent lion list have at least 2-3 swordsman because they're simply too good.

nope - every decent Lion player takes at least one because they are thorougher than sparklings and Lions - and in any composition something must take the hits for more fragile units.

In the lion army the role of swordsman is tanking, being carrier of seal of dae*.* and with parry hold position while mage and archer do their nuke job. Every decent lion list have at least 2-3 swordsman because they're simply too good.

i gotta to agree here, to me swordsmen are really ok. They are not supposed to kill or deal damage but control. Taunt and For the light do that (yes the latter is a control spell because a fierce swordmen prevents a pursuit + blocks your path...for at least 1 turn which is huge imo). Parry is super annoying as often to kill them reliably you need 2-3 basic units.

Parry is super annoying as often to kill them reliably you need 2-3 basic units.

so why i need two swordsmans to kill one HB skelleton ?

Why you had to kill a HB skeleton?

to eliminate all enemy units?

I can't believe you guys are still having this argument.

Honestly swordman of alhan is one of the best unit of the game in their role. Doesn't understand this is pretty unbeliavable imo.

Is better than skeleton warrior and than fang.

Come on, really? How would you even compare a Swordman with a Fang and say he is better at his Tank role than a Fang at his mobile-damage dealer role?. Swordman is decent at tanking at most, everyone that plays Humans know that fact, parry doesn't work all that much vs Undeads and Fear, or numbers, or Stun or Fear+Stun+Surrounded that is Something a Skeleton Warrior with HB don't have to deal with, at least not that badly, they got better Tou and they take 3 less damage per hit, they don't get feared so they don't see their Acc be 5 with full health. If you really want to see how bad a Sworman is put 2 of them level 2 with Parry in front of a Black Paladin with Honor on and see how long they last, then try the same with 2 Skeleton Warriors with HB or 2 Fangs with Ruthless, try the same against a Gargoyle or a Lion of War or a Hunter.

Can they close paths? yes they can close paths and help add damage but so can Necromancer's Puppets and you only need 1 Necromancer to have an infinity number of Puppets.

Swordmen were great tankers when they could be healed like crazy, you can't do that anymore but you can heal 20 hits points in 1 turn of HB Skeleton Warrior with a full health Necromancer level 3 with Mastery of the Arcana.

nope - every decent Lion player takes at least one because they are thorougher than sparklings and Lions - and in any composition something must take the hits for more fragile units.

Exactly.

i gotta to agree here, to me swordsmen are really ok. They are not supposed to kill or deal damage but control. Taunt and For the light do that (yes the latter is a control spell because a fierce swordmen prevents a pursuit + blocks your path...for at least 1 turn which is huge imo). Parry is super annoying as often to kill them reliably you need 2-3 basic units.

That is the problem, they are not suppose to kill or deal damage but when they are feared and stunned they are not suppose to parry either. Taunt is a good talent but I rather have 3 Swordmen level 1 in my company than 2 level 3 Swordmen with what ever talents you can put on it. If you really find Swormen parry super annoying then, you are not fighting them right.

In the lion army the role of swordsman is tanking, being carrier of seal of dae*.* and with parry hold position while mage and archer do their nuke job. Every decent lion list have at least 2-3 swordsman because they're simply too good.

You can cast Seal of dellar'n on any unit in your company in fact if you want to cast seal of dellar on something do it on a Sparkling with Def. Stance and see him disengage from a 4 units engagement next turn and go back to the mage.

Swordmen are a decent foot soldier but is definitly the weakest foot soldier in game and their AP cost represents that. Any decent Lion company will have 2 or 3 because you need numbers to control parts of the map and you have no other option for the cheap AP cost.