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Re: Golem vs chimera

PostThu Jan 16, 2014 12:29 am

0.11 patch...glad i bought the golem: without ferocious keeping him too much in check it is very strong. Now i've to test it more and see if it is really THAT strong that makes chimera look sad.
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Re: Golem vs chimera

PostThu Jan 16, 2014 7:24 am

Deep Blue wrote:0.11 patch...glad i bought the golem: without ferocious keeping him too much in check it is very strong. Now i've to test it more and see if it is really THAT strong that makes chimera look sad.

but now without old wolfen crossbowmans and with new golem STR and lowers ap cost he cant be countered by most of roasters. In case of lions only chimera can deal him any real DMG... TOU 19+HB is way too much for curent meta and his new stats. He is like the chimera from last patch but with additional insensitive.
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Re: Golem vs chimera

PostThu Jan 16, 2014 8:04 am

Dragon_Warrior wrote:
Deep Blue wrote:0.11 patch...glad i bought the golem: without ferocious keeping him too much in check it is very strong. Now i've to test it more and see if it is really THAT strong that makes chimera look sad.

but now without old wolfen crossbowmans and with new golem STR and lowers ap cost he cant be countered by most of roasters. In case of lions only chimera can deal him any real DMG... TOU 19+HB is way too much for curent meta and his new stats. He is like the chimera from last patch but with additional insensitive.


yeah my opinion so far but i haven't tested it beside on training map, which he was able to solo, even the medium one :D more comments after more testing :-)
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Re: Golem vs chimera

PostThu Jan 16, 2014 10:27 am

I dont have my own but there is one in hard map - and even for golem commanded by dummy AI i needed Chimera+Knight+healing Valkyries (archers shoot once but it was pointles) to kill it :P
even while my chimera is cripled by the FoV bug - its still insane use 400+ ap (all made from hardest lion counters) Vs passive golem.
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Re: Golem vs chimera

PostThu Jan 16, 2014 10:52 am

Dragon_Warrior wrote:my chimera is cripled by the FoV bug

What bug are you talking about ? I haven't heard about field of view/line of sight bugs since a few weeks.
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Re: Golem vs chimera

PostThu Jan 16, 2014 11:39 am

my bad it should be SoV - Strenght of Virtue ;P
i dont knew why i remember it as a Force of Virtue
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2266

sorry
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Re: Golem vs chimera

PostThu Jan 16, 2014 12:11 pm

Ok, now I understand.
We are discussing about this amongst many other things internally, I can't answer much for now, we are still gathering feedbacks ;)
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Re: Golem vs chimera

PostSun Jan 19, 2014 9:06 am

this topic taught me a lesson: careful of what you wish for ;-)

i would like to thank the devs for improving the golem...but right now it became too good :D i need to test it further but if i play single player modes i can SOLO with a level 1 golem (without hardboiled) 500 AP of wolven (since i have to queue 2 units i just take one very far so they all try to engage my golem). I know it is AI but i doubt a player would have done differently as wolven just need to engage me in melee and that is their only option :-). I was surrounded by predator of blood + guardian of runes + grave and i think in total i lost 15 HP before killing them all. I need more testing vs humans ;)
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Re: Golem vs chimera

PostSun Jan 19, 2014 12:09 pm

Deep Blue wrote:this topic taught me a lesson: careful of what you wish for ;-)

i would like to thank the devs for improving the golem...but right now it became too good :D i need to test it further but if i play single player modes i can SOLO with a level 1 golem (without hardboiled) 500 AP of wolven (since i have to queue 2 units i just take one very far so they all try to engage my golem). I know it is AI but i doubt a player would have done differently as wolven just need to engage me in melee and that is their only option :-). I was surrounded by predator of blood + guardian of runes + grave and i think in total i lost 15 HP before killing them all. I need more testing vs humans ;)

For the Lions only option would be Valkyrie with higher cost skill tree... Or maybe two lev 5 mages with celestial scourge - but im not so sure of that - and scourge is currently most problematic offensive spell to cast so its not so popular to see even one scourge build in lion parties ;)

Back to Wolfens - they used to counter legendaries with accurate Crossbowmans but ow its imposible. They really should be only slowed by -1mov - not STR lowered by -5 ;)
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