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Re: Wolf Archer insane movement/Harassment

PostMon Feb 17, 2014 5:38 am

Well, if I would try to engage them all at the same time, my troops would get picked apart pretty fast. And if I concentrate on one wolfen at a time, I do not only run out of time, but the other wolfen units can again kill my own units one by one.
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Re: Wolf Archer insane movement/Harassment

PostMon Feb 17, 2014 7:11 pm

I don't think the problem goes simply with the analyse of the unit.

The reason you see a lot of wolf archer atm is simple : cause there is too many defensive formations, mostly human, that are unpossbible to manage without this kind of arrassement. A good human turttling with archers and valkyria, landing multiple shots with 1% theoric chance because of Valkyria buff is imo worst than any wolf archer.

Fact is: no wolf player would have take a look at archery (loosing all benefit from Born Killer), if they didn't needed this to face human defense. IMO, if you take something to one side without taking it from the other, the first one won't be able to keep up anymore.

To put RAM in the analyse, i won't guess if they are or are not competitive, but at least they can put a lot of meet on the table, where any loss of wolfen creature before being able to hit enemy is probably meaning 'game over'.

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Re: Wolf Archer insane movement/Harassment

PostMon Feb 17, 2014 7:22 pm

Fausth wrote:I don't think the problem goes simply with the analyse of the unit.

The reason you see a lot of wolf archer atm is simple : cause there is too many defensive formations, mostly human, that are unpossbible to manage without this kind of arrassement. A good human turttling with archers and valkyria, landing multiple shots with 1% theoric chance because of Valkyria buff is imo worst than any wolf archer.

Fact is: no wolf player would have take a look at archery (loosing all benefit from Born Killer), if they didn't needed this to face human defense. IMO, if you take something to one side without taking it from the other, the first one won't be able to keep up anymore.

To put RAM in the analyse, i won't guess if they are or are not competitive, but at least they can put a lot of meet on the table, where any loss of wolfen creature before being able to hit enemy is probably meaning 'game over'.

Sorry for my approximative english.



i think we should wait for the next patch that should hit this week...harassment will be nerfed as well as favorable auspices and valkyries... :)
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Re: Wolf Archer insane movement/Harassment

PostMon Feb 17, 2014 11:26 pm

Yeah, I think so too. I haven't played Lions yet, so I really don't know much about them. But tbh I still think that harrassment in it's current form is too strong. If wolves need archers to be competitive against defensive humans, the humans have to be analyzed (and probably nerfed) too.
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