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Phoxly

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Will we be getting a better ranking system?

PostTue Feb 25, 2014 4:52 am

The current ranking system heavily favors those who have more time to play rather than those who actually have consistent winning companies.

For example we have two players:

Player 1: 42 points, 14 wins, 0 losses. - Rate of 2 games per day in a 7 day bracket.
Player 2: 43 points, 24 wins, 15 losses. - Rate of 5.5 games per day in a 7 day bracket.

It seems a bit unfair that those who have more time to cram in games every week, but maintain a mediocre win ratio can still be ranked higher than those who consistently win or consistently demonstrate their ability to play well. Or rather those who play in peak hours will find matches much faster than those who play during the slower periods of the day.

I don't have the solution, but something of an ELO system like many online mmo's have created would be much more ideal I think? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system
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Re: Will we be getting a better ranking system?

PostTue Feb 25, 2014 7:36 am

a slight fix in this direction would be nice
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Re: Will we be getting a better ranking system?

PostTue Feb 25, 2014 8:39 am

I already ask for an ELO ranking, maybe separating ranking for players from the ones for army. I think devs will change the ranking a lot in the future as right now is pretty simple and uncomplete.
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Re: Will we be getting a better ranking system?

PostTue Feb 25, 2014 9:40 am

they do have a ELO system already the problem is that having a high one really blocks you from finding games regularly...i normally have to wait about 15 min for a game, when the general chat is full of people talking (and i assume playing also). This limits quite a bit my already limited playing time as 2 matches can take 30 min of waiting time....
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Re: Will we be getting a better ranking system?

PostTue Feb 25, 2014 10:49 am

But as i knew ELO can be implemented totally different way.

not by making games from equal players but by modification of final score.


So when player placed 3492 in rank would win with someone from top 10 - he should get a lot of additional points.
But whiule someone from top 10 wil loose with far weaker player - he lose additional points for that.

But this would require changing the current point scale from to something like +/- 1-10 points or even 1-20 for one game.
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Re: Will we be getting a better ranking system?

PostWed Feb 26, 2014 3:32 am

Deep Blue wrote:they do have a ELO system already the problem is that having a high one really blocks you from finding games regularly...i normally have to wait about 15 min for a game, when the general chat is full of people talking (and i assume playing also). This limits quite a bit my already limited playing time as 2 matches can take 30 min of waiting time....


Really? I was rank 6th last week and never had to wait more than 5 minutes... Even when I made it into the top 10 I was getting put vs people who were ranked 50-100+. I typically try to find my opponents on the ranking to see where they sit, especially since it gives me an idea of how their team comp is doing overall.
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Re: Will we be getting a better ranking system?

PostWed Feb 26, 2014 12:06 pm

Hi everyone,
just to let you know that the ranking system will be improved, the team is working on it.
We actually don't have any date to communicate about this release but it's in progress.
There is already an ELO system for the game research.
We will let you know as soon as possible.
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Re: Will we be getting a better ranking system?

PostFri Feb 28, 2014 12:07 am

Phoxly wrote:Really? I was rank 6th last week and never had to wait more than 5 minutes... Even when I made it into the top 10 I was getting put vs people who were ranked 50-100+. I typically try to find my opponents on the ranking to see where they sit, especially since it gives me an idea of how their team comp is doing overall.


hehe and i was playing 2 days ago 4 games against guy who was rank 2nd and he donno how to play. actualy rank isnt ELO especialy when its restart after the week and y donno history of y or yours enemy games
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Re: Will we be getting a better ranking system?

PostFri Feb 28, 2014 8:26 am

third guy on ranking as of today:

62 victories and 64 LOSSES. lol? doesn't sound like the best player to me.

I add that i cannot play even with people online. This week i managed to do few games and only vs the 2 of the top 10 (i wouldn't mind some variety in my matches!) - which seems can be my only opponents if i search for a match... I think i will make it barely to the top 100 because i can't play games at all and 20 min+ in queue is too much for my freetime.
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Re: Will we be getting a better ranking system?

PostFri Feb 28, 2014 9:21 am

62 victories and 64 LOSSES. lol? doesn't sound like the best player to me.

Depends...
In case of my Acheron band i lost quite many games before i stoped experimenting with 3x Pala and stwitched to slightly abusive 5 bowman base that works against current meta. Without option to reset rank by myself i need long time to achieve enough victories to bring my Win:Lose ratio at respectable level ;)

but srsy - 120 games since monday?
Personaly i have time for 2-4 games a day, if not less.
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