about Hard Boiled

card rule says "-3 DAM (minimum of 1"

but
in a Knight Fight they deal 5 damage to each other
Accurate bowman deals him 6 damage... Accurate bowman on Aim 7

so with STR+9-TOU formula i would say that current Hard Boiled works as -3 DAM with minimum of 6?
But In Knight Vs Knight Fight it looks even werider... 12-14+9=7 ... and 7-3 = 4... so how they deal 5 to each other? and if Hard Boiled formula works this time to minimum of 5 or what ?

anyone ?

I have noticed the same thing, but I think it happens to a broad number of units. 1 theory I had was that in some cases the formula is not dmg + 9, but dmg + 10. I have noticed this both on units with and without toughness so I ruled that out. Not a huge matter in any case, but a curiosity I'd like some light on for sure.

I'm almost shure that this is about Hard Boiled

another example

Accurate Bowman Vs Knight also 6dmg
Accurate Bowman Vs Stuned Knight (TOU-1) also 6dmg

I have some anomalies of my own:

Skull (14) (stunned) vs Sparkling (5) = 19 dmg 14 + 10 - 5 = 19
Skull (15) vs Sparkling (5) = 20 dmg 15 + 10 - 5 = 20
Skull (15) vs Sparkling (stunned) (4) = 21 dmg 15 + 10 - 4 = 21
Skull (15 +3 with scourge) vs Sparkling (frightened) (5) = 23 dmg 15 + 3 + 10 - 5 = 23

Skull vs Sparkling seems to always use base 10.

Same with Magiciain of Alahan:

Skull (15) vs Magician of Alahan (6) = 19 dmg

Everything else that I have noticed uses base 9.

I haven't done many tests with hard boiled yet but I'll take your word for it

[Jigoku]

It's because the damage formula is much more complex that that.

So, the "STR+9-TOU" formula is wrong, but you can still use it as a general rule of thumb if you think the results are close enough for your predictions; however, you shouldn't expect it to work 100% of the time.

It's because the damage formula is much more complex that that.

So, the "STR+9-TOU" formula is wrong, but you can still use it as a general rule of thumb if you think the results are close enough for your predictions; however, you shouldn't expect it to work 100% of the time.

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Can we know the full formula ?
it would be useful to knew the rules game that we play ;P

especialy when we want to discuss its rules/skills/stats etc.

It's because the damage formula is much more complex that that.

So, the "STR+9-TOU" formula is wrong, but you can still use it as a general rule of thumb if you think the results are close enough for your predictions; however, you shouldn't expect it to work 100% of the time.

...
Can we know the full formula ?
it would be useful to knew the rules game that we play ;P

especialy when we want to discuss its rules/skills/stats etc.

True, the game is quite simple right now, if you share the full math behind calculations the comunity could help very much in balancing the game.
Also I noticed that the formulas in the tutorial are just a "guide" but it does not always work the way you predict... in particular what interest me the most is: are there minimum caps for stats? What stats? How big are?